Peak Oil - Adapting for Big Changes Ahead Video

Peak Moment 155: With a long-time eye to declining energy resources, Bart Anderson envisions a very different society in five years. The former editor of Energy Bulletin.net offers advice for post-oil living: Understand the problem. Prepare psychologically for big shifts and the unexpected. Find your niche and get good at it. See what your great grandparents did as a model for living well within limits. "Live poor and learn to do it well" as Bart did as a graduate student. Things will be very different, he said, but we'll make it through.

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jfrogto: Thanks for introducing this wise man!
jojo808: dobly: "There (is) just not enough 'alternaitve' anything to replace oil" . So we are doomed,eh? No solutions to bring to the table? Again ,'IS' is the comfortable status quo. I think you meant Cuba and I agree, theirs is a plight i'd hate to repeat but its a recent example for better or worse from a technical stand point ,not a "hippy" ,overly optimistic one.
shox007: Changes WILL be big. How will thegulf countries function without global trade? They have no resources except oil and sand. How will the emerging economies adapt when the foreign investments which have fertilized them come to a stop? What will happen to poor countries when oil reaches $300+ a barrel? I think that "learning to live like a poor graduate student" and retreating into an off-grid hideout is not nearly as important as trying to come up with solutions for the whole world.
DoblyTufnell: @jojo808 We use over 87 million barrels of oil a day. You have yet to suggest a viable 'alternative' technological or otherwise to replace that. Fact is, there is no replacement. I suggest you watch.. watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY followed by watch?v=XnXZzx9pAmQ&feature=PlayList&p=7E8A774DA8435EEB&index=0&playnext=1 Then come back here and tell me about this 'alternative' The world will not stop, people will not cease to exist but the world is going to be a vastly different place.
jojo808: Good stuff Dob: My Dad and I discussed that exact talk by Dr . Bartlett a few years ago . We are certainly not in disagreement about upcoming vast change tech-wise and population wise. After all ,every one you and I know are a literal product of oil . The eventual waning of "us" is inevitable with or without our consent . Yes.
jojo808: so no ,i have no delusions of a 'plan B' for staying on this path of consumption . I hope thats not how you interpreted my message. . As bad as Cuba sounds to you , is that the path you feel we are on as a culture? I mean people are talking about colonizing other planets . .. There has to be a better right here 1st . Eh?
renemartien: 1. Education - better educated people (especially women) tend to have less children. 2. Medicine - people have more children if child mortality is high, once they are confident that their children make it into adulthood, they will have less children. These are just a few.
ConocimientoEsPoder1: Education I thinkso too. ConocimintoEsPoder = Knowledge Is Power.
johnTconover: The oil bulls on wall street are bighting at the bit and will run loose once oil breaks $90. The talking heads and the Joe 6-pack economists will not be able to blame the speculators like they did two years ago (although they will try). Peak oil will replace climate change as the "hip new topic" before 2012 and every hollywood movie star will be jostling for their chance to go on Letterman and tell us all how they bought a new Huffy to save the world. Thats when know peak oils gone legit...
johnTconover: Also, without cheap energy to fuel economic growth, debts dont get paid, banks fail and fiat currency becomes useless overnight. It is THE danger that cannot be underestimated by Americans. Most people are completely unaware how close the world came to complete economic collapse. Banking bailouts are only buying time. The rest of the worlds economies are using this time to diversify from the U.S. dollar which will collapse if oil rises significantly above $100 for any extended time. Good luck;-)
wildcatbungalo: Ah, the trap of the narrow minded. There may not be enough alternative anything to replace oil but there is enough alternative everything to replace oil. Although anyone who doesn't think oil should - no NEEDS TO - be replaced is crazy enough to be laughed out of the room.
dhymers: scary how this video has less than 700 views, yet "charlie bit my finger" went viral in less than a week. Doesn't living in a world that unaware scare the beejebus out of you ? *shudder*
DoblyTufnell: @wildcatbungalo Ah, the trap of the ill informed. You have clearly no idea just how much oil is in every part of everything we create and how many of these 'alternatives' require oil to be produced. Try making solar panels, wind turbines or a geo-thermal plant without oil. Most all of your food is a product of oil. Even pots for your herb garden are made with oil. Whether oil 'should' or' needs' to be replaced is a moot point. Fact is, oil cannot be replace. Not fully anyway.
peakmoment: That's what Derrick Jensen also reminds us of -- the truly serious predicament that industrial civilization is killing the planet -- and people just don't get it. Scares me alot.
wildcatbungalo: Wow, you know what oil is used for! Congratulations. What you don't know and don't understand is this... Oil is finite. Oil is not sustainable. It's not that it should be replaced, not that it needs to be - and thank you for helping refine my point - it WILL be replaced. The fact remains, the sooner we replace oil the better it will be for every person of the world. Though for some, their limited view of the world will not allow them to see the benefit.
DoblyTufnell: Astounding. You just don't get it. Of course I know oil is finite and non sustainable. Your problem is that you believe oil 'WILL be replaced'. I'm just saying it will NOT be replaced as there NO replacement for it. You have made no suggestions for these replacements you speak of. If your next reply does not list these don't bother replying. The glow from your ignorance is blinding. Oil is finite, it is running out, it has 'peaked' and nothing can replace it.
wildcatbungalo: You want answers about the future, try Nostradamus. What I can tell you is this. There are MANY alternatives and the future is broad. 150 years ago, no one could have predicted that man would fly, land on the moon or communicate wirelessly nevermind many of the countless modern contrivances that we utilize today. The solutions will come and some already have though I doubt it will do much to illuminate the darkness of your dim mind.
wildcatbungalo: I hope the world will change. I hope for people to live more benign and wise lives that are suitable to a sustainable existence. But I'm too well-informed and intelligent to believe that that time is now. It's been fun hurling insults back and forth with you for no good reason whatsoever!
trach83: To develop the topic more - oil isn`t just the matter of transportation (as i used to think about it). Take a closer look at agriculture industry - all the stuff to manage the soil are processed petro chemicals...To mention one.
duckman4you: Ya man exactly Oil is every where! isn't plastic made from a by product of refining crude oil? Any ways i think once we run out a lot of people will be running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Hopefully i won't be one of them.
DoblyTufnell: >>>fun hurling insults back and forth with you for no good reason whatsoever! Agreed. If a tad juvenile. :) >>There are MANY alternatives and the future is broad. And you can't mention one. Can't eh? Didn't think so. It's real easy for some to find comfort in just believing that technology will work it out, just because it has too. Technological development depends on abundant cheap oil. Rising oil prices = rising cost of manufacturing. Even my 'dim mind' can see that. :)
wildcatbungalo: It is not worth mentioning all of the various options that could be used to fill individual niches. There are applications where plant based oils could be used or an entirely different substitute could be used like coconut husk fiber plant pots, hydroponics - the options for individual product replacements are too numerous and varied to count without even accounting for alteration to lifestyle. Most technological advancement has been in the face of necessity for change or a lack of material.
DoblyTufnell: @wildcatbungalo >>Most technological advancement has been in the face of necessity for change or a lack of material. And possible thanks to cheap oil. I sure hope you are right, but when oil is over $500 a barrel and rising, lets see what technological advancement can be made. This last 150 years or so and the technical advancments made would not have happened if not for oil. Your computer keyboard is made of oil. Need I go over this? There is no replacement. Localize and grow food
ghjjfsbf: I can't see why he'd need 6 hours to explain anything when he can't even fill up 28 minutes without going over the same few points repeatedly.
thetwentyteens: @wildcatbungalo. All of those accomplishments that you are naming came because of oil. Once the oil peaks in 5 years, kiss your way of life goodbye. Which, by the way, isn't the worse thing that can happen. There's more to life that SUV's and iPods. We'll be just fine, but kiss your gizmos and gadgets goodbye.


Author: peakmoment; Uploaded: Nov 6, 2009; Duration: 27:51; Views: 1472

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