LiberalViewer Deliberately Distorts the Facts, Part 5 Video

LiberalViewer deliberately distorts the facts on so many occasions, and yet he has the audacity to lecture me on trivial nonsense.

Here Liberal Viewer distorts healthcare statistics and a study.

For more information on prices vs. costs. Read the following:

Thomas Sowell 1: http://tinyurl.com/y9juqgf

Thomas Sowell 2: http://tinyurl.com/yg7tfnp

Thomas Sowell 3: http://tinyurl.com/yhucddu

Thomas Sowell 4: http://tinyurl.com/yk8hg2k

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xtreme1002003: Good to see this video back on. People who false flag are nothing but anti-free speech dolts.

abadubie: LiberalViewer fails again! Love it!

AvatarOfAvatar: I would much rather be here than any other country. I know it's expensive as hell here, but alot of that has to do with the sue happy culture that America has turned into. There are too many variables as to why our costs are so huge. I have to say though, this was a really good video, normally you and liberalviewer just sound like two little kids fighting, but this one was solid as hell man.

Ilikenuman: no thunderf00t IS an intellectual. but hes also very stubborn it seems, I have no doubt that thunderf00t is brilliant when it comes to science. But when it comes to thunderf00t. its no longer about politics, its about point scoring. im quite disappointed with thunderf00ts behaviour towards howtheworldworks. but i still watch his videos on science : )

Tripo1iSamson: thunderf00t is an intellectual? And Stalin was a humanitarian...

Ilikenuman: you can still be an intellectual and a stubborn jackass. I think thunderf00t should stick to science thats all. so yes, i do think hes an intellectual, but just plain wrong when it comes to politics

Tripo1iSamson: fair enough, I just tend to think "intellectual" is just another word for "not grounded in anything real." But I hear you.

hijinxcavalry: (1) Suicide is a function of psychological care; it does reflect on the health care system. For instance, the Virginia Tech shooter had participated in Virginia's psych system, but it cut him loose (obviously, in that case there was more than suicide). (2) Why does the USA have to pay to research all the pharmaceuticals? If we cut back on our research, the other countries will have to fill the void. (3) I didnt find your argument about transplants to be convincing; which study did you use?

specialjr11: OMG you are so full of shit. If you think Drugs are only made here in America you are a ignorant fool. We do not supply the world with drugs you dumbass, Germany, France China, England, Japan, they all develop and manufacture drugs. This man is full of shit. The difference is The Gov. in those other country do have price controls and demand that they dont get fucked by the Drug companys, where as we let the "free market" or as I like to call it the "fuck the American people market" run the show

hanzo138: That's funny, I could have sworn there were special interest laws and bills supported by BOTH Bush AND Obama that allowed the pharmaceutical companies charge whatever the hell they want, thus giving them immunity FROM the free market.

bush1tman: Since you don't produce anything you don't have any idea that research and developement approval etc of pharmaceuticals is very costly and governs what is charged at the end use.

bush1tman: specialjr11 What do you do for a living?

snoman99991: Not even half of the top fifty pharmaceutical companies are located in the US, and that doesn't even speak to where those drugs are produced. Keep in mind that many labor intensive manufacturing jobs are shipped overseas. Lee clearly misses the concept of cost reducing that the public option offers. By using the large user base of the public option as leverage, the government can negotiate for cheaper drugs (common economic theory). What in the world is Lee trying to accomplish here?

snoman99991: Once again though, Lee misleads the viewer by asserting that LiberalViewer's quote didn't apply to the study. Lee is incorrect because while independent surveys were used to draw that conclusion, the conclusion was in fact drawn by the study. This is an example of the people conducting the study using outside and independent information to draw an unbiased conclusion. He didn't imply the statement was true, but commented that if it were, that would be even worse than just the spending issue.

snoman99991: Furthermore, Lee misleads the audience by implying that procedures alone are a measurement of the quality of health care. Idealistically, our health care would be best if we didn't have to have those procedures done. In fact, the rate of cancer, infant mortality, and other indicators of a nation's health care system demonstrate that we are not getting what we're paying for. Lee is attempting to turn the attention away from pharma companies and those who stand to profit from our system.

snoman99991: I hate to keep going, but Lee continues to distort what's going on here. Suicide rates are in fact a measurement of our health care because mental health is part of the system as well. Our mental care, when given the correct respect, can save lives and is a good measurement of the system. Is it the best? Of course not, but you shouldn't be writing it off either. Lee, you are not an expert about health care, and any doctor or physician would laugh for you to say life expectancy is irrelevant

snoman99991: Price controls do not impact diagnosis rates. Price controls impact drug prices, not the cost of doing simple and cheap screenings for things like breast cancer and pregnancy complications. If our health system endorsed preemptive screenings, the pharma companies wouldn't profit, so our health care system doesn't push hard for preemptive care. Of course, well-meaning doctors do take care of their patients, but as a whole, the system is for profit, and that is simply amoral in principle.

jdoucheisfly: I don't think you understand what GDP is dude. If it is true that the US makes all the "life saving drugs" for the rest of the world (which it is not, as other posters have commented), then the GDP would be massively INCREASED by selling these drugs to other countries so the proportion of GDP spent on medical costs in the US would actually be DECREASED by selling these drugs to the rest of the world.

dunsedog: You are now just being insulting. Ever heard of GSK, one of the largest and most famous phama companies that is, oh, in fact British. There are so many other examples, but you have insulted so many others I can already see people arguing as well.

dunsedog: Read the rest of the stats Lee shows, only top on 3 statistics. Not exactly outstanding or anything. Also taking his opinion as fact is a little absurd. Maybe Lee could link a peer-review paper to support his opinion

pharaoh337: Keep in mind that the WHO does not have the resources to conduct its own independent study. They rely on what the governments tell them. And a. There's a good chance that the european governments were lying b. Every country has different standards relating to life expectancy etc, which means that a good result in Europe might be a very average result in the US.

tubaboy71: When liberalssay "70% of Americans want government run healthcare" you know it is a lie. realclearpolitics(.)com has an average of all polls and support for it is about half of 70%....kind of like the costs of the healthcare and things like Cap and Tradeare being sold by saying they will only cost half as must as they actually will cost and lose twice as many jobs.

bushonomics: GDP is a measure of economic activity WITHIN a country's borders. US pharmaceutical exports do not contribute to US GDP. The US has price controls as well in the sense that the government, insurance companies and GPO's negotiate and determine reimbursement rates based on factors such as WAC (wholesale acquisition cost) and AWP (average wholesaler price). Lastly, the US has drug shortages and supply problems all the time. Go to FDA's site, or ashp . org to see current critical shortage info.

bushonomics: To say that life expectancy isn't a measure of a health care system just shows that you don't understand statistics. Unplanned events, such as hurricanes, murders, earthquakes, drug overdoses, plane crashes.... anything that kills a human being goes into the figure. Life expectancy is a general barometer of an entire country's situation, and while a nation's health system isn't the ONLY factor, health care is definitely part of that picture.

bushonomics: Last point on the infant mortality (IM) thing: you claim that in other countries, prenatal deformity never results in a birth, and even when it does, those countries don't count that in their IM rate. I for one would like to see a reference on that - what is your source for saying that other countries calculate IM differently than we do? If other countries DID use different methods to get their numbers, every IM study would have to notate that on their tables and in their text.

Author: HowTheWorldWorks; Uploaded: Nov 8, 2009; Duration: 7:26; Views: 5950

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