Don't Copy Europe's Mistakes: Less Government Is the Right Way to Fix Healthcare Video

In this CF&P Foundation video, Eline van den Broek explains that government interference is driving up healthcare costs in America and warns that European style health "reform" will make the situation even worse. Based on what has happened in Europe, she explains that universal health coverage is not the same as universal healthcare, that insurance mandates mean more government control, and that price controls simply do not work. More Information: www.freedomandprosperity.org

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apogist: fucking stupid cunt, she does not deserve Dutch citizenship. The dutch healthcare system is amongst the best in the world. I can't help that this right-wing nutcase, a failed politician of the Libertas party in europe, isn't getting her voice heard. Now she is using cheap propaganda for attention. There are many examples in europe where healthcare is a succes, and some where it is not. Also, the size of government has NO correlation to succes in countries.

charly2370: Well said, and I'm certain we will never revoke it. I'm Canadian and if Sarah Palin ran for prime minister on a platform to dismantle our healthcare in favour of a private insurance, "free market" system only, as you have in the US, she would not even get to first base. It would be political suicide. There have been many scare-mongering, half truths that have been said about our system, and unsuspecting Americans believed them. It's not perfect but we are correcting things to make it better.

brotherwoo: as an american, i think is certainly presumptuous of us to judge another nation's HC system. we just don't realize that, for all of the british, canadian and german complaints about their system, they would rather die than be subjected to the chaos of the american system.

Chainedorlo: The Dutch have a more market-oriented system in the first place, if this video is pre-2006 than it makes a lot of sense.

Chainedorlo: The only chaos we face is that health care in the U.S. is artificially inflated to dangerous levels. I would recommend reading the Objective Standard article linked on my Youtube page for starters.

Chainedorlo: Are most Canadians have heart surgery, chemotherapy, and who knows what other kind of surgery everyday?

Chainedorlo: Excuse me, I meant "having."

charly2370: Yes, and all Canadians do not have to worry about any "preexisting" or any serious "chronic" condition. Neither the coverage nor the premiums change. We don't worry about loosing our savings or our house to pay for healthcare costs. If anyone goes bankrupt and on welfare is not because of healthcare costs and therefore will not be a bigger burden on the state.

Chainedorlo: We wouldn't have to worry about preexisting conditions if we actually had a real insurance market as opposed to insurance companies paying for day-to-day care. Our health care costs are artificially inflated, please understand this. It is the most contorted market, besides the financial system, in the country! You guys do have high costs though, that is reflected on how many people are on the waiting list for a surgery, your high generic drug prices, and less medical equipment than the US.

charly2370: Waiting lists for elective surgery are a thing of the past. Our previous provincial government lost an election because of them. We have an inexpensive state run drug insurance and and when the doctor orders an MRI or any other test on equal expensive equipment we have reasonable access to it. If it's urgent then we get the service without delay.

Chainedorlo: 1) Don't equate markets to Sarah Palin 2) I know it would be political suicide, that's why I hate democracies. Any moron or rent seeker can vote. 3.) I read much about Canada's system. Don't go to your nationalist bullshit saying that we Americans don't understand it. I know how to read and I have read and heard opinions from Canadians who have otherwise different opinions than yours.

Chainedorlo: There are rent seekers in insurance companies, especially Blue Cross and Blue Shield, but it's nowhere near all of their fault. Hell, it doesn't even apply to insurance companies as a whole. They don't all receive the same tax and regulatory treatment. I think our American "progressives" are forgetting much of their economic history.

Chainedorlo: You have cheaper drugs(not generic drugs) than we do, but that's due to price controls. Not to mention all the waste that goes along with it. Waiting lists are by no means a thing of the past, I have yet to see any reports on waiting lists dying out. The provincial governments post their data for people waiting for elective surgery. Yes you have reasonable access to it. You don't have as much access to those units as we do in the U.S. Also, how would you define "delay?"

charly2370: We do have cheaper drugs and we also have generic drugs and you are saying that there is waste here which I haven't seen. As far as waiting lists are really no more in our area; I speak from experience because my wife's first elective hip surgery four years ago was on 8 months waiting list and her other one will not have to wait at all. Also, last year she did not have to wait at all for her cataracts. I spoke to her doctors and they have no waiting lists, they are as well equipped as you,

charly2370: Delay? The doctors tell me that when faced with an emergency they get access to the equipment instantly.

charly2370: Sarah Palin is the one that said, without doing her homework first, that Canada should dismantle its health care system. Based on your comments I figured that you were on the far right of the political spectrum. The "bulshit" as you so well put it, about the Canadian health care probably comes from the US insurance companies'. Your data on which you base your opinions is at least 4 or 5 years old and that's an eternity in politics.

Chainedorlo: I put generic drugs in the parenthesis because I meant that they are HIGHLY inflated. Maybe that is the case in your town, but I bet I can still find more waiting lists across Canada. It is a massive place.

charly2370: In this province, if there ever is a bottleneck for elective surgery one of the following possibilities is offered to the patient: 1, Being operated on by another surgeon at their hospital; 2, Being operated on by another surgeon at another hospital in their region; 3, Being operated on by another surgeon at another hospital outside their region. 4, Being operated on in a specialized medical centre

Chainedorlo: All of those requirements have little effect on the waiting lines for elective surgery. The other surgeons and hospitals can well be very busy, and the specialized medical centers can be busy. I have a question though, don't you have some private clinics in Canada? They were illegal for some time, or is this by province? I'm thinking more the latter.

charly2370: Yes they may be busy but usually the patient's doctor and hospital will direct him to one of the above solutions where the resources are available then it's up to the patient to decide to accept or not the proposed possibility for surgery. There are now some private clinics where the patient can go and have the operation but they are not subsidized by the public system like those in Europe.

Wtfgames: I live in Icealnd and the health care indusrty is owned all by the goverment and waiting lists? Bs... I can go to a clinic and take a number and wait a few mintues for a doctor, took me 25 minutes to get a doctor when i had the swine flu,

brainiacgames: No, I've never been to Europe. I'd wager you've never been to the US. But that's irrelevant. Personal experience does not invalidate hard data. And the US simply outperforms Europe in almost every category on health care. As for GM food saving 0 lives - you're an idiot. Read about Malthus and Norman Borlaug, you left-wing reactionary jackass, then thank him for allowing your worthless self to exist.

Chainedorlo: When I had some form of the flu this year, I didn't even go to the doctor...

Chainedorlo: Thank god for that. I found a funny fact about Canada's health care system, it's easier for animals to get surgery rather than humans. Well, the people who run animal clinics are private practitioners.

lordoftheinternets: Troll.

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