Bachmann's urgent call to arms on health care: Please Come to Washington! Video
Glenn Beck Radio - Michele Bachmann: Please Come to Washington on Thursday!!
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realnarutoboy: It isn't a "vague" vision. He said he was a proponent of single payer. How much clearer can he get? And it is happening now, in the present.
kerasea: What ? No way that's true. Beck raped and killed a girl in 1991 ?? Let's see proof
ProgressiveAction10: More fucktard Teabaggers! The entertainment continues!
faething: The people have spoken! The majority of us elected those in office today because we WANT public health care. This isn't a government takeover... It's about my mother not having to die from cancer because she can't afford health insurance. This is an act of compassion to save lives. These neocons don't have any sight of that.
SBOB459: You don't really understand the whole picture!!!
combat1856: If you cant afford health insurance its your fault. Get off your fat lazy ass and help your own mother.
faething: Oh really? What don't I understand?
mark1m: you can type so stop being a lazy freeloader and go get a data entry job. Stop stealing my tax dollars.
11111110: Years ago he did, but now he is barely pushing for a public option, let alone a single payer system. A single payer healthcare system is only supported by the far left, in reality the only one really trying to propose a single payer system is Kucinich, and even his amendment is getting shot down.
realnarutoboy: It wasn't years ago. He's said the same thing again last year. I guess Barney Frank would go under the category of "far left" because he said the same thing, too. There have been multiple people in his party and in his administration that have talked about wanting single payer. There is no "far left," anyways (democrats are far left, period). Most of them are pushing for the exact same thing. Some just disagree on the approach.
11111110: I'm sorry that you are ignorant of the number of democrats that have been voting alongside republicans in measures such as the health and stimulus bills. You know, those "blue dogs"? Like the recent Virginian election democrat candidate who was basically more conservative than the republican candidate? If it's Obama's intention to create a single-payer system, he's doing a pretty lazy job of it. I barely see him lift a finger for the sake of the public option. Naturally, I'll need a link.
realnarutoboy: There was a quote from him in 2008 saying single payer is what he wants (not talking about the video). All I can go on is his word. He's not "pushing for it" now for the same reason he claims to be against gay marriage. He knows that he can't do everything all at once. Like his other official, he knows that he has to do things in increments and nudge people in that direction. Bringing up Kucinich proves my point. He doesn't hide the fact that he's a nut and look how much relevance he has - 0.
11111110: He very much can do everything he once, he has a super-majority of "far left" democrats in congress as you said. Either they are all planning to create a single-payer system, or they are deliberately pretending to NOT care about it so that they can secretly create it ine future, which will more than likely create more media attention and opposition than a public option. Which is it?
realnarutoboy: I meant do what he wants and still maintain his popularity. And he won't be able to do that if he pushes everything at once. It's called strategy. I told you which one it was. He's doing things in increments because he knows the public won't support what this will inevitably turn into. His own people have admitted to this.
11111110: The lack of action is causing him to lose popularity on the left, whom have been complaining that he hasn't been following his campaign promises. Not that he needs popularity to successfully push an agenda, ie the Bush administration. But, the majority of Americans support a public option. Once it passes, that isn't going to magically make them any more supportive of a single-payer system.
realnarutoboy: majority, lol, according to who? Most that I've seen say that they don't. But whatever you say. Not about leftists. Leftists are drones. He can toss them a bone and get them back any time he wants. All he has to do is say "Bush did it" or demonize the CIA and the zombies come flocking back. What he has to do is remain favorable among the general public. The general public is not liberal. In fact, most despise that. Hence why whenever a poll is done, the results show people want less gov.
realnarutoboy: Didn't say he needs popularity to push an agenda. He needs popularity because 1. He's an egomaniac. and 2. An election year is right around the corner, and he doesn't want to do anything rash, which is why he's been so indecisive as of late. He would fall out of favor with too many people if he pushed everything at once. Doing things slowly and "nudging" people isn't exactly a new strategy of the left.
11111110: Your ignorance of leftist criticism aside, are they drones for voting far less uniformly than any republican congress ever did? Surely if they are a bunch of zombies, there wouldn't be a bunch of blue dog democrats holding up the bills while Kucinich tries to squeeze in an amendment to allow states to adopt a single-payer system.
11111110: Haha, yes, what kind of egomaniac president seeks the approval of the majority of Americans? What does he think he is, some kind of representative of the people? He brought droves of first-time voters to the voting booths by taking a bunch of liberal stances in regards to foreign policy, dont ask dont tell, prosecution of Bush administration officials, transparency promises, etc. Now that he has faltered on these, its no surprise to see his one-time supporters also become less enthusiastic.
realnarutoboy: Well, I'd prefer a president that doesn't act (or not act) based on that days poll. He should have some core values and should stick to them, instead of flowing with the wind. He's a flip-flopper, basically. That's not representing the people. That's doing what's politically expedient. I was talking about the leftist constituents of the Democrat party, not the conservative-esque Democrat politicians. Obviously, those people are not drones.
11111110: Alright, so if I can restate it, the blue dog democrats are not drones because they follow political beliefs that are more in line with the majority of Americans (ie conservatives). But what you said creates quite a conundrum. If Obama follows the will of the people, he's a flip-flopper. If Obama follows his own core values despite what public opinion says, he is a FASCIST RAMMING LEGISLATION DOWN OUR THROATS.
realnarutoboy: Let me explain again: Obama is a radical leftist. He positioned himself as a moderate (like the gay marriage thing he said to get other moderates and conservatives on board who aren't for it). His goal is to implement far left policies, but he can't do that if him and his fellow Democrats get voted out in the coming elections. That explains his indecisiveness - going back and forth between what he wants to do. cont.
realnarutoboy: I called him a flip flopper because he is notorious for saying one thing to one group and then going somewhere else and saying something totally different. He doesn't get credit with me when he doesn't do boneheaded things (and he pretty much always does something boneheaded) because I know what his overall objective is, and it's not anywhere near what most people want.
11111110: So, he is a radical leftist that isn't actually doing any radical leftist policy implementations in order to hold his seat. I see.
11111110: Most of the people that would agree with you on the flip-flopping are on the left, ironically.
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