Two issues about Islam, and why I am buying a gun Video

1. Islam actually has a political doctrine, a.k.a. Sharia Law. This law goes against individual liberty, is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution, and that's why I have a HUGE problem with it.

2. Can an infidel be innocent in the eyes of a devout Muslim? If the answer is yes, then that's one thing, but if it is no, then there is a HUUUUUUGE problem here.

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TheLegalImmigrant05: Thank you for your comment. Let me ask you a simple YES or NO question: Can an non-Muslim - who does not like Islam and does not want to convert - be innocent in the eyes of a faithful Muslim? I would appreciate a straightforward YES or NO. Thanks again.

mosely900: do then its only because they feel victimized and they, in their sense, are fighting back in order to have their rights. So in a sense it is like the beganning of the USA government. They were fighting in order to have their rights that were given to them by God, and this is why they stood their grounds and decided to fight agains oppression. Same thing with slavery. let me know what your thoughts are and maybe we can straighten out any questions you might have = )

TheLegalImmigrant05: Why are we not seeing outraged Muslim leaders speaking out in unison and in large numbers against Islamic terrorists? What is your honest opinion about this? Does it bother you? Do you speak out against this kind of violence? If not, why? Thanks again.

TheLegalImmigrant05: Hmmm. You seem like a good person, but help me understand. Do you condone blowing up civilians by the thousands or not? Does not matter inthe name of what - their "rights", their faith, whatever. Do you condone people walking into a disco and blowing up a bunch of kids? Or a bus? Or a mall? Or a civilian airliner?

TheLegalImmigrant05: Maybe I am right to buy a gun.

mosely900: However violence against anyone is still violence and is unexceptable in Islam unless this person has been victimized and the only way to return his God given rights is by fighting back. Similar to self depense senario

TheLegalImmigrant05: Self defense is directed at the one harming or attempting to harm you, i.e. I shoot a guy who assaults me in the street to rob me, or breaks into my home. Blowing up a plane is, by this definition, not self defense. Agreed?

mosely900: Absolutely,I do not condon fighting for your rights. There are ethical and moral decisions even in warfare as we all know. If you look back in history, the Sharia that you had spoken of earlier, was used in a very good way to allow Christians, Jews to live together in a very healthy and safe environment, we condoned the hate of any other religion while the person is under Sharia law. So for example if a Jew was to have any type of hate crime agains a Christian they were going aganst Sharia

mosely900: Yes I do, you must understand my intentions were to answer your question, does the Qur'an ask to bear arms and calls their followers to fight, the answer is YES. We are asked to fight only to maintain our freedoms that was given to us by our Creator.

TheLegalImmigrant05: 1. Is it only OK to fight against the ones who try to harm you? Or is it also OK to fight and do violence TO SPREAD ISLAM? According to your scripture and your faith, I mean. 2. Also, if someone does not like Islam, and says that Islam is bad, is it OK to harm them or kill them? 3. Also, if someone converts from Islam to another faith, what does Islam teach to do to them? I appreciate your feedback. These three should be easy to answer - 1. and 2. are YES or NO, and 3. is simple enough

TheLegalImmigrant05: Hmmm. No answer. Lots of nebulous rhetoric with nice, warm, soapy words, but no answer to a couple of simple YES or NO questions.

Binhiding123: 1. Quran tell us to fight and slay against unbeliever who took our lands and killed our children. 2. Quran does not tell us to kill innocent person who is from another religion. 3. every Muslim should spread the message of Islam in peaceful way, NO VIOLENT 4. if someone insult my religion or my prophet i will not harm or kill we can have a dialog 5. Kill Apostates of Islam. visit: h t t p : / / islamnewsroom. c o m /if-someone-leaves-islam-hot-topics-45 i give 5 answers

Binhiding123: i hope this clears your misconception about Islam

TheLegalImmigrant05: Oh yeah, it does :) You have no idea

TheLegalImmigrant05: By the way, if I may ask, what passport do you hold? What country are you a citizen of?

Binhiding123: i live in the UK, why?

TheLegalImmigrant05: That is not what I ask Do you hold the UK passport too?

Binhiding123: what are you talking about? you asked a question i answered, why you want to know what passport i hold? this is irrelevant to this topic, where are you trying to go with this?

HumanShieldrpg: Question to Muslims: If a private property owner forces you to leave his property because you are practicing Islam, were your rights violated?

mosely900: mhhhhm good questions, because on the one side I would assume that God created the world... right? and in doing so it is ultimately his land and sense we, Muslims, believe in God then we are able to use His land to pray to Him. However I do understand your point and I believe as a Muslim that if I was asked to leave a place where I was not welcome and a place where I do not own nor have valid reasons for being there, then my actions is to leave. So my answer to your question is No.

mosely900: Because if we think about this idea, we can see that I have no right to practice Islam if say I'm at a Church, or even a non-Muslims house. This is only because we ultimately have another choice. The problem comes when any person is denied to practice their religion PERIOD. So if I have a place where I'm allowed to practice Islam, then I am completely fine with it. I CAN be restricted from a certain place i.e. Church. But I can not be restricted from practicing. Which again goes against Freedom.

mosely900: I'm sorry I haven't commented on this video in a while... I've been very busy although I wouldn't mind answering any questions you have about Islam if you are truely only looking for what a true Muslim believes and the rightful teachings of Islam. send me a private message with your questions so I can respond in a complete fashion.

TheLegalImmigrant05: Thank you, I think I have heard enough for now

Lobotaru: I am an Atheist who has been doing personal research on Islam. The simple answer to your question of can people of different religions be considered innocent in the eyes of Islam varies widely with the sect you are dealing with. If you are dealing with Fundamentalist Islam, then no. A person who is of a different religious faith is NOT an innocent. Openly stating your faith is like a declaration of war to such a Muslim.

Lobotaru: If you are talking about moderate Islam, it depends more on the individual. You can tell them your faith if they ask and they will not attack you. Criticizing their religion will always come off as a personal attack however, so don't expect any great theological debates out of them. Then you have the liberals. They pretty much reinterpret their religious doctrine to match secular teachings. I believe these make up the bulk of U.S. Muslims.

Author: TheLegalImmigrant05; Uploaded: Nov 10, 2009; Duration: 5:22; Views: 107

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