Large Hadron Collider Sabotaged by Boson? Video

Is it possible that the LHC is preventing itself from discovering the Higgs boson? As the New York Times puts it: "the hypothesized Higgs boson... might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather."


A link to the fulltext journal article 'Search for Effect of Influence from Future in Large Hadron Collider' can be found here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1919


Telegraph online article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6318034/Could-the-Large-Hadron-Collider-be-held-back-by-its-own-future.html

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gadzometer: And a very interesting video Alan.

ToppervisionEnt: I had to chuckle a few times here, I think I was supposed to? However these gung ho blackhole weilding yahoos get the plug pulled is fine by me. I think they really are playing with this waaaaay ahead of it's time. I only hope the explosion they cause stays contained to a small geographic area, which it won't.

alanstarkie2001: The professor guy is deadly serious although some might not take him very seriously! He wrote a scientific math based paper on this stuff. I'm sure any explosions will be small enough to fit on a pin head and if it goes wrong you'll never notice. Blackhole wielding yahoos - I love it!

alanstarkie2001: I don't quite follow the logic though. The universe abhors Higgs bosons - OK. The LHC may discover them if they exist - OK. It isn't as if the LHC is bringing them into existence when they didn't exist before (or is it)? I've not seen the equations so I can't quite get my head around this theory.

alanstarkie2001: The predictions by Nielsen et al were made a year before the LHC was started and shut down, so far the theory holds true. Link to the paper in the description.

PoisonedAntidote: hmm, this all sounds very fictional to me. if the machine is sabotaged by something then it will not work and thus will never need to be sabotaged in the first place.

gadzometer: The way I see it is that there are two trains of thought. 1) Everything exists and we are finding it 2) If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Or we are co-creators of our reality. There are some experiments that lean towards the second one. And if this is the case, then is there a universal consciousness that we are co-creating with? It is one of those grey areas where philosophy meets science. And it has me stumped.

alanstarkie2001: The only thing that can lead to rejection of the Nielsen hypothesis, is if the LHC works and the Higgs Boson is confirmed. What you are saying supports the hypothesis. The research is serious and not at all fictional.

666steff666: nassim harramein

spanish111japan: I don't understand this at all , its very weird!

michaelaspace: well iv asked the aliens to stop it .

doublemm22: hmm... might destroy the world. only one man can help us now. The Termanator.

ProudToBLoud: My washing machine Broke down, I had it repaired and it ran again then it broke down, I do not think it is clapped out, i think it is being sabotaged by the future.

alanstarkie2001: Hmmm, you might have a point, if your washer develops a fault that potentially allows it to generate a Higgs particle, and if that particle is so abhorrent to nature, its creation might ripple back through time and influence you not to use Calgon (when you know you should have but just couldn't be bothered). If you did use Calgon, the belt would break or you would end-up with a brainless engineer. Failing all that, you'll end up using Bold 2-In-1 and you would be swallowed by a black hole!

ProudToBLoud: Hi alan I am asking you this honestly not as a challenge but for your opinion, don't you think this collider has been a huge waste of money or do you think that there will be some benefit to come from it, not asking as a challenge btw.

alanstarkie2001: As a service engineer, I couldn't resist joking with you. A waste of money? If you are not interested in the research, yes. However, the money has been injected into thousands of jobs in construction and academia. The confirmation (or not) of the Higgs particle would change the entire foundation of physics - and that impacts everybody. To answer your question, yes - I think €4.6Bn well spent. The dome cost us nearly £1Bn, that was a waste money for a tent!

ProudToBLoud: I dont mind you joking I am not that touchy ok thanks for your answer.

alanstarkie2001: I work for the guy who's vacs never lose suction! Better not mention the name eh?

ProudToBLoud: Oh you work for D, that is a good company, no need for me to say that it sucks then.

alanstarkie2001: Yes, better than most :-)

MsSeptimus: I love this hypothesis, it's so awe-inspiring to think that he may just have something. I don't really understand the theory around it (other than the simplified snippets of information that they give you on the news), but I am nevertheless very interested.

alanstarkie2001: I did manage to download the full paper referred to in the news item. You need a decent understanding of maths to make sense of it though. Logically it seems to make some sense.

MsSeptimus: My maths is actually pretty shaky (I was always more of an arts and languages person). I do, however, have a huge amateur interest in this sort of thing, with most of my knowledge gleaned from populist sources such as 'A Brief History of Time' and so on.

MsSeptimus: Ok, I've attempted the paper but that sort of maths goes way over my head! Hey, at least I tried.

Dzwitch: As far as I understand and infer in a hypothetical way from the background of the arguments exposed here, a black asshole that's hidden in a black tunnel is gonna eat all of us, is that right?

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