The Huge Mistake: Why cap and trade would be bad for the environment and the economy Video

This video, produced by EPA enforcement attorneys speaking on their own personal behalf, explains why cap-and-trade, while applicable for acid rain, will not work for climate change. It explains why a fee-and-dividend approach is more appropriate and will benefit the environment and the economy. Economists call this the "double dividend."

The video is divided into three sections.

1. The Big Lie which is that cap-and-trade will work for climate change. The reality is that cap-and-trade works great for acid rain, but would not work for climate change.

2. The Big Rip-Off which discusses how carbon offsets make things even worse because they can be easily gamed and because all the money will flow to the cheapest offsets.

3. The real solution which discusses fee-and-rebate which provides a double benefit, helping both the environment and economy.

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nevaseenamancry: Would carbon fees with rebates really work? In this video are they saying that by gradually raising the cost of fossil fuels that we will someday see cheaper green energy? That doesn't sound right. If someone could clarify this I'd appreciate it.
nevaseenamancry: This is true. I always thought Green Energy was a scam, but are the people in this video creating one of their own? If the cost of uncontrolled fossil fuels rises won't we just get taxed more?
alohatwou: This video itself is a "Huge Mistake". Guess I could tell right at the start when they said they have the ultimate respect for president and congress. !!!!!!! Their premise is still "global warming" caused by carbon emissions. Read other comments below on the false validity of that! Rebates for increased costs? What insanity. I'm a long term fed engineer that am amazed at the hoodwinking taking place by our left wing socialist congress & leader. 1 mistake (thisvideo) doesn't blot another.
alohatwou: This video itself is a "Huge Mistake". Guess I could tell right at the start when they said they have the ultimate respect for president and congress. !!!!!!! Their premise is still "global warming" caused by carbon emissions. Read other comments below on the false validity of that! Rebates for increased costs? What insanity. I'm a long term fed engineer that am amazed at the hoodwinking taking place by our left wing socialist congress & leader. 1 mistake (thisvideo) doesn't blot another.
StrikeEagel007: It's funny. I wrote about this exact topic in grad school. These people in the video know carbon fees with rebates will not work.The Cap and Trade system is insane.The EU ETS that they reference was and is a complete disaster.Phase I failed and Phase II is about to collapse.Charging industry for carbon use is not going to work. the EU tried that in Eastern Europe and it was a disaster.Much better to let industry continue working with no fees so long as they invest in future clean energy R&D.
StrikeEagel007: They think that by increasing the taxes on fossil fuels that the energy companies will be able to use the surplus profits to invest in clean energy.Nice idea.But not going to happen.There is no incentive for this to work.Example: Exxon would not care less to develop clean energy if they can sell oil at the highest price per barrel. The manufacturing companies should invest in clean energy and get a tax break if they meet certain criteria.These lawyers are trying to get set up for the contracts.
nevaseenamancry: That makes sense. Good point. I watched a documentary about electric cars and there was a battery that would last 300 miles. Guess what happened? An oil company bought it. (The cars were leased to people, taken back and destroyed.)
alohatwou: Yeah, and good ol' lying dem/lawyer Al Gore I'm sure is about to make a bundle on his 10s of millions he already has, promoting the "BigLie of Global Warming" in his flawed movie. He won't even stop eating meat when it'sbeen proved carbon emissions from cows/animals far exceeds that from cars and industry. We're heding towards "New World Order" and the pawns are Pelosi, O, and the other cronies is Congress elite and Senate. Join the Teapartiers and VOTE FOR REAL CHANGE (in all of them!)
nevaseenamancry: I have to admit I had to look up what EU ETS meant. I knew what EU was but not ETS. So.. this Cap and Trade stuff is bigger than I thought. I heard on the radio if you leave your car idling while in traffic, some cities can fine you. Everybody is freaking out about emissions.
alohatwou: and freaking out for no real good reason!! When I worked in Germany in the late 90s, on a military base, our introduction to Germany was a German coming up and banging on our rental car that my wife was sitting in wating for me (it happened to be about 20 deg F outside!) and yelling at my wife to "turn off the car". They were easily deceived by Hitler, and the saga continues to this day. They can't seem to think for themselves... poor poor Europeans! Let's not go down that same route!!
alohatwou: I cant wait until 20 or 30 yearsdown the road when America is bankrupt from bloated fed spending and the dollar is basically worthless, countries like Brazil, India and China will be exporting their work to the "cheap labor" Americans who do great work at a great bargain employment hourly rate. Or maybe I'm just cynical that since the Reds didn't listen to Gore, the Dems, and O and didn't buy into "cap and trade" and "global warming". Look at the stupendous modern cities they now have! USAout
StrikeEagel007: It is crazy. So many people worry about this. The world should worry more about the out of control grape in the White House that is ruining USA.
nevaseenamancry: Impeach Barry Soetoro. ; )
silentonall: 20 or 30 years down the road? Better to try 2 or 3 years down the road.
herr0167: I sleep well, with my heat on that is. See I live in Minnesota where we did not have a summer this year and we had one of the coldest Octobers on record. As for the evilness of the tobacco industry, hmmm. How much of those huge settlements went to the community and how much to the lawyers? So if you really want to stop climate change put a thermostat on the sun and stop all those sun flares. PS Al Gore loves you
RavensFan2812: It's just another example of liberal democratic lies being exposed for what they are.....money makers for those in government. STOP THIS CRAP NOW!!!! Stop kissing O's butt.
49indians: Kudos to stevekirsch32.. I just heard the usurper POTUS and his goons have forced the two attorneys here to remove their post at risk of 'disciplinary action'.. That reported on FOXNEWS..
alohatwou: For all those idiots who voted for O, and those who voted because they saw hope in him, you got what u wanted...change! Now, the time has come for us to get REAL CHANGE and vote these bums and the out of control, out of touch congress and senate who fail to listen to the majority OUT OF OFFICE. We can still save this country, but it will take a 180 and fiscal responsibility and INTELLIGENT people, not the socialists in control now who want to follow the useless Euros and the more useless UN!
amemi21: It is all a lie!!!!
arslp: The POTUS is the greatest threat to national security.
lord2fli: The idiot liberals wouldn't be in a position to screw things up if we hadn't spent the last eight years refusing to acknowledge climate change at all. I'd like to welcome the nutty conservatives to the environmental bandwagon (one that started in the early 90s when all of this could have been prevented). I'm glad you guys hate Obama and the opposing team so much because if that's what it takes for you FauxNews loyalists to take action then so be it.
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KingKalifor: Just say Global Warming is the big rip off!! This is what the EPA is afraid of, these two are saying no to cap and trade but they are reproposing the cap and trade bill.
danchad79: also check out/search 'climate chains' on youtube. it is a compelling take on extreme environmentalism and cap-and-trade.
CaptainBuckSnort: Cap and trade is just another buzzword phase, in a long line of fear mongering, 40 years ago they predicted a New Ice Age 30 years ago they predicted we would run out of oil in twenty years. 20 years ago they were predicting a global pandemic of Ebola 10 years ago they predicted that all the computers would crash, planes would fall from the sky, money would disapeare from bank accounts, it was called Y2K. Last year it was the H1N1 virus that was going to kill millions. BULLS?IT


Author: stevekirsch32; Uploaded: Nov 7, 2009; Duration: 10:7; Views: 4379

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